Curse

knives · Feb 16, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by Age

One word ,Dash Hello E/A and A/E

LOL 3 sec duration 8 sec recharge won't be enough to not get you killed.

I D E L E T E D I · Feb 16, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

I am a PvEr and i have to say i like this update. I read alot about the problems in PvP and am happy that Anet is acctually starting to fix them i hope they keep it up.

To those that are complaining about this balance (not nerfs), because their super duper E/A raptor thingy dont work anymore. Learn to think of an alternative.

GG Anet

Esan · Feb 16, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Death Pact Signet is still overpowered.

Glad to see Power Leak back, though.

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 16, 2008, 02:08 AM // 02:08

nice update mitch

HayesA · Feb 16, 2008, 02:34 AM // 02:34

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Originally Posted by I D E L E T E D I

I am a PvEr and i have to say i like this update. I read alot about the problems in PvP and am happy that Anet is acctually starting to fix them i hope they keep it up.

To those that are complaining about this balance (not nerfs), because their super duper E/A raptor thingy dont work anymore. Learn to think of an alternative.

GG Anet

It's not really about the rapter thing. It's just that the Storm, and Flame Djjns spells were the best ele running spells. Now that they're 25%, it was a major hit for some of us who relied on it. We only really have 1 more left; windborn speed. So, guess we might be using that now. Even if it's not nearly as good as Storm Djjn's was.

Well, at least for me. I never liked rapter farming because of stupid hard mode loot scaling crap, mass killing all at once never seemed like a good idea to me. Besides, ele swords dropped like 100k x ecto, to a laughable 10k value.

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 16, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by HayesA

It's not really about the rapter thing. It's just that the Storm, and Flame Djjns spells were the best ele running spells. Now that they're 25%, it was a major hit for some of us who relied on it. We only really have 1 more left; windborn speed. So, guess we might be using that now. Even if it's not nearly as good as Storm Djjn's was.

Well, at least for me. I never liked rapter farming because of stupid hard mode loot scaling crap, mass killing all at once never seemed like a good idea to me. Besides, ele swords dropped like 100k x ecto, to a laughable 10k value.

Remind me, what did eles use before nightfall*?

Eli Rela · Feb 16, 2008, 02:53 AM // 02:53

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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

I fixed your post for you. Please do not presume to speak for "us in PvE" ever again.

Never farmed raptors in my life... my main is necro btw, I am upset about PvE nerfs for sake of PvP, but I guess I am alone here.. all I see is AB, AB, AB...

Sephiroth Istari · Feb 16, 2008, 03:05 AM // 03:05

raptor farming is still alive for me.

splashed 3 points into water for armor of the mist- back up and running.

HayesA · Feb 16, 2008, 04:20 AM // 04:20

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Remind me, what did eles use before nightfall*?

Windborne Speed? just doesn't last nearly as long, but it can be kept up as constant. At 0 Air, you have to stop, and recast every 5 seconds.

enter_the_zone · Feb 16, 2008, 05:06 AM // 05:06

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Erm yes actually, it has been used in GvG recently I believe. 2 seconds is hardly a nerf when you think about it, fast castin' and 40/40 sets and all that, but I guess it makes it a bit easier for a good interrupter to overcome.

And this is why the average PvEr should not be allowed to have a say in skill balances, no offence.

/activate Flame shield

And, as usual, PvPers think they're the most important thing in the universe, no offence

These skills were blatantly nerfed for pvp reasons, as usual, since all Izzy cares about is PvP.

Frankly, this update doesn't really affect me, since I don't use any of those skills in PVE on a regular basis. But GG Anet at once again isolating even more of your current players. If some of us won't be seeing you in GW2, we know you'll understand.

Shakti · Feb 16, 2008, 05:10 AM // 05:10

Alex, I have stolen the cute freakin cat pic...they are mine..oh yes muwhahahaha!!

Dr Strangelove · Feb 16, 2008, 07:05 AM // 07:05

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone

And, as usual, PvPers think they're the most important thing in the universe, no offence

These skills were blatantly nerfed for pvp reasons, as usual, since all Izzy cares about is PvP.

So... Izzy should consider obscure farming builds when balancing the game, rather than balance sensitive GvG? oic

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 16, 2008, 07:25 AM // 07:25

GW was supposed to be a pvp orientated game

so

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 16, 2008, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Because GvG, as the highest level of competitive play, is the first concern for skill balances.

GvG, as a facet of competitive play with little effect on Guild Wars for the majority of players, should be the very last concern.

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

GW was supposed to be a pvp orientated game

so

It isn't anymore.

So.

C2K · Feb 16, 2008, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Because GvG, as the highest level of competitive play, is the first concern for skill balances.

There's competative play in this game???

RhanoctJocosa · Feb 16, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

GvG, as a facet of competitive play with little effect on Guild Wars for the majority of players, should be the very last concern.

It isn't anymore.

So.

judging by the updates and their focus on pvp i'd say it is.

too bad for you. i hear wow has decent pve

Avarre · Feb 16, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

GvG, as a facet of competitive play with little effect on Guild Wars for the majority of players, should be the very last concern.

GvG is one of the places were balance actually matters. PvE is not affected by most skill balances - and farming is never a good reason for a skill to be kept. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

The ability of players to farm is at practically the highest it has ever been. Notice how prices of everything are low?

In summary, you don't understand how the game works.

Slaine · Feb 16, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by Avarre

GvG is one of the places were balance actually matters. PvE is not affected by most skill balances - and farming is never a good reason for a skill to be kept. If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

The ability of players to farm is at practically the highest it has ever been. Notice how prices of everything are low?

In summary, you don't understand how the game works.

i'm sorry - where did he say anything about farming?
hands down, every "balance" screws pvers.
pvp is not the only point of the game, but every update suggests it is.

Avarre · Feb 16, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by Slaine

i'm sorry - where did he say anything about farming?
hands down, every "balance" screws pvers.
pvp is not the only point of the game, but every update suggests it is.

Considering that balanced groups have never been damaged to a noticeable extent by skill balances in PvE, the only possible complaint is farming - unless you're short-sighted enough to only care about how 'pwnz' your character is.

bigtime102 · Feb 16, 2008, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Nice to see they fixed stuff that more than half the playerbase doesnt care about - PVP endgame

Wheres the beetleracing top 100 and festival npc fix?